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There's No Place Like Home - Parts 2 and 3 - 05-29-08

May 30, 2008 02:56 AM

The band of friends, family, enemies and strangers must continue to work together against the cruel weather and harsh terrain if they want to stay alive. But as they have discovered during their 90-plus days on the island, danger and mystery loom behind every corner, and those they thought could be trusted may turn against them. Even heroes have secrets.

http://abc.go.co....t/index?pn=index

* UPDATE #1 *
The phone call Kate received in reverse - Season 4 Finale:
http://www.prest....om/audio/908.mp3

* UPDATE #2 *
Our Season Four Finale recap and a brief conversation with Terry O'Quinn
http://www.prest....om/audio/909.mp3


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Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2008 05:30 AM
OMG! what a great episode! what a way to end the season!!! How weird when Kate had the dream about Claire, I wonder why Claire doesn't want her to bring Aaron back to the island?
And in the beginning, when KAte and Jack are talking at the airport, who is the "HE" that Kate refers to? Sawyer? Maybe I missed it, my brain gets so confused with this show...BUT I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!
P&S ROCK!
Posted by Jennifer on May 30, 2008 05:32 AM
One more comment... Hurley is playing chess with Mr. Eko??? WTF!!!!!
Posted by The Solution on May 30, 2008 05:34 AM
With Jack & Ben's talk about needing to "go back to the island" my new theory is a series beginning after LOST ends........called 'FOUND'. This deals with the return of the Oceanic Six to the island, a new Dharma, etc. Will make for a nice boxed DVD set called 'LOST & FOUND'
Posted by ouizee on May 30, 2008 05:42 AM
did anyone else catch that kenny rogers thing? that's a big shout to p & s.
Posted by Syke on May 30, 2008 05:53 AM
http://www.octagonglobalrecruiting.com/

Yeah, right at the end of the last commercial break, the site BLEW UP last night from 11-12am.

July 24th-July27th, 2008 in "San Diego" ???

I wonder...

LOST ROCKS, YOU GUYS ROCK!

SYKE
Posted by Lisa on May 30, 2008 06:23 AM
Did anyone notice how short Locke's coffin was? Do you think something happened to his legs? Maybe they were cut off or destroyed again, and maybe that has something to do with being off the island.
Posted by Nicole on May 30, 2008 06:29 AM
Needless to say this episode was unbeleivable!!! I’m still digesting everything that took place in last night's 2 hour finale. I was lucky enough to go to WMMR’s ANNUAL LOST SEASON FINALE PARTY at the Trocadero in Philly, but missed alot of tonight’s episodes little details. I’ll defianately be taking a second (maybe third or fourth) look in order to discover everything that was revealed. Despite some of "technical defficulties" last night, it was still an amazing party!!! Thank you Preston and Steve...you guys rock!! So much happenned last night I don't know where to start! Jin is dead (maybe), along with Locke…but is it for good? Ben tells Jack they ALL need to go back to the island, including Locke. Sawyer had a heroic moment by jumping off the helicopter in order to save everyone else (or so he thought)…but what exactly did he whisper to Kate after they shared that passionate kiss in front of Jack and everyone else! Ben moved the island , Desmond finally found Penny (for now), we find out Jack was the one who made everyone lie bout what happenned on the island….the list goes on!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t see how they will top tonight’s episode, but knowing Lindolf and Cruse, I know they will pull it off and suprise us with many more twists and turns! I’m sure the last 2 seasons will show the Oceanic Six struggling to get back to the island…but how, now that island has moved and Locke is dead??? Tonight’s episode definately gives us a glimpse of why Jack is so messed up after he leaves! One of my biggest questions is why does Claire tell Kate in a dream theat she cannot go back to the island with Aaron? I thought only Claire was suppose to raise the baby? And what happens to everyone that stays on the island!! I guess we’ll find that out and alot more in another 9, very long months. I'll be counting the minutes along with some heavy drinking and re-runs of LOST! I can’t beleive we only have another 2 seasons left!!!
Posted by Neil on May 30, 2008 06:53 AM
What was the deal with the "octagon global recruiters" commercial? I can't find anything on-line.
Posted by Matthew C. on May 30, 2008 06:55 AM
I think Michael is really dead because before the C4 blew he was told "You can go now Michael," meaning he can finally die since he has been trying to kill himself but hasn't been able too, but now the island will let him die.
Posted by Deb on May 30, 2008 06:58 AM
What an awesome season! Last night's episode really was the best TV has to offer!!! One question. If Jack made up the lie, did he purposely choose "108 days" to be the number of days they were on the island, or was that the actual number of days...and byw, there's that "108" again. Coincidence, I think not!

Preston and Steve Rock!!!
Posted by Jocelyn on May 30, 2008 07:01 AM
Nothing to do with the plot at all... but did anyone notice the one chick's pink thong hanging out when they were sending out the last rescue boat with Faraday?? I thought for sure that would have gotten a reaction at the MMR Viewing Party!
Posted by VINCE on May 30, 2008 07:09 AM
WHO WAS IN THE CAR OUTSIDE OF THE PSYCH HOSPITAL THAT SAYID SHOT AND WHY. TELL ME
Posted by Christina on May 30, 2008 07:14 AM
The commercial was an advertisement for a Dharma Intiative. The website is overloaded, but here's a screen shot of what the site shows (stolen from another blog..)

http://bp0.blogg....00-h/octagon.png
Posted by Lost for Life on May 30, 2008 07:15 AM
Just a thought but I don't think the island was moved physically but just moved through time. If you saw the instructional video the guy was talking about how it looks like the bunny disappeared but infact it was time traveling. This would help to explain why Richard never ages, because they just keep moving the isalnd through time.
Posted by chriscwes45 on May 30, 2008 07:21 AM
Did anyone get a good look at the hieroglyphics in the wheel room? They looked to me like the same ones that came up when the button wasn\'t pressed. I know I at least saw that bird.
Posted by Deb on May 30, 2008 07:23 AM
Oh Yeah, something else. I know the reason for changing his name from John Locke to Jeremy Bethem (at least I think I do)...because to keep with the lie, no other survivors can be found, and the flight manifast would have had John Locke's name on it, but why that particular name? What's the significance behind it?
Posted by Meesh on May 30, 2008 07:34 AM
I can't tune in to WMMR during work and I'm DYING to know what was said to Kate backwards when she was dreaming.

Can anyone help me out?!?!?!
Posted by Fran on May 30, 2008 07:49 AM
Michael and Claire are dead. Not so sure about Jin, he may be in the water. Which is probably why Sun wants to get back. Hurley has the gift that Miles has in that he sees dead people. Desmond and Claire aren't exactly safe either since Ben is going after Penny. As for Lockes death and what happened on the island after they left...I'm totally LOST!
Posted by kathy on May 30, 2008 07:56 AM
Yikes! What a way to end the season!
Go Sayid!!- that was an awesome fight scene between him and keamy- sayid rocks!... Knew the freighter would blow up, Chrisitian is Jacob and yes Michael and the others on the freighter are all dead. Loved the scenes with kate and sawyer and actually cried when penny and desmond reunite. ("see you in the next life brother"... hmmm what are the chances of that again??). Sun is now in cohoots with Widmore ( blames Jack and the gang for Jin's death)- Locke must have come off the island to warn/ talk to Jack about wanting him to come back and was killed by Widmore. Seems like Sayid/Ben are in the beginning phases of getting the six back together in order to go back to the island. Mark my words.. Locke will be alive upon his return to the island!
Posted by paige on May 30, 2008 09:08 AM
jeremy bentham was a philosopher around the time of john locke who is connected with the idea of utilitarianism.

such an awesome show. i jumped out of my seat when ben said hi to jack at the funeral home
Posted by Jack S. on May 30, 2008 09:09 AM
Michael is dead ... "Michael, you can go now..." Michael was trying to kill himself and it wasn't happening because he had a purpose. Jack's Dad was saying that Michael could now die.

Jin isn't dead for sure. You never see him die. There's a very good chance that the boat with Daniel in it will find him in the water. I don't think he's dead.
Posted by Scanner420 on May 30, 2008 09:28 AM
This show was awesome!!!!!

K- First off........"Kenny Rogers" comment by Sawyer had me on the LOL'rcoaster and I had to rewind it.
Secondly- I think Michael and Jin are dead. They said there was no one left in the water.
Third- When Jack and Kate spoke at the airport, Jack said he spoke with "Jeremey" from the time they got off the island and before he died and Kate said that she had spoken to him, as well.
Fourth- The two "Dead People" Hurley had "Full Blown Conversations" with so far, were Mister Eko and Charlie. They were both exposed to the island's magnetic force when the hatch exploded, like Desmond and Locke.
Fifth- End of season three- Juliette and Sawyer are walking towards the beach. Saywer asks why Juliette came with him...her answer..."Karma." The look on Juliette's face when Sawyer swam on the beach half-neekid after the boat exploded. "Karma" just bit her in the ass.
Sixth- Sun said to her father that she blames two people for her husband's death, he is one......Is the other Widmore for blowing up the freighter, or Jack for sending them on the boat in the first place?
Seventh- Anyone else catch the fact that Charlotte said she was "Born" on the island? Could she really be the lil girl "Annie" from Ben's past?
eighth- What's going to happen to Fairaday and the 815 passengers that he took on the raft? They were still headed towards the freighter AFTER the explosion. (the island flash was emmiting from behind them.)
Ninth- Walt is now shaving and playing center for the Lakers.

More later!
Posted by Kris Eve on May 30, 2008 10:06 AM
The dates in July in San Diego refer to the Comic Con which takes place every year. Also since Ben said that if you move the island you can't leave it. Where would that leave Desmond who was the first one to move the island at the end of season 2, although we didn't know what that was at the time. Also is Locke the new Christian Sheperd. Flying to the island in a coffin and coming back to life. It may be a cycle.
Posted by fran on May 30, 2008 10:12 AM
anyone else having problems dling the mp3s?
Posted by Nancy on May 30, 2008 10:14 AM
that was by far one of my favorite LOST episodes!! it was so well done! I am with Kathy that I am so sad that no one showed up for Locke's funeral, especially since it looks like he's been right all along. and it's really sad that Sun is blaming Jack for Jin's death. he just made the decision that he thought was best and while it was unbelievably sad that Jin died (maybe...) if they had gone back for him, then they all would have died. and why doesn't Claire want Kate to bring Aaron back to the island? is it because she knows that he's supposed to be the others leader when he gets older? because I think that might be a great prediction. I think that's why they take children. and when Ben said that they all have to go back, is Desmond included in that? or did he just mean those from the crash? and would Sun & Jin's child also have to go? there are just so many questions. I am with Preston and Steve and have just stopped analyzing it & am just enjoying it. it's such an amazing show and analysis can just become frustrating and once you're frustrated, you can't appreciate it for the brilliance that it is.
Posted by LOST! on May 30, 2008 10:26 AM
if anyone watched the first hour last night, there was a new scene added in the press conference. Jack explained to the press that Boone, Libby, and Charlie all survived the crash but said that Boone had died of internal injuries, Libby didn't make it through the first week, and Charlie had drown a few weeks before rescue. why pick those three?
Posted by girty on May 30, 2008 10:33 AM
In the obit Jack was reading from I thought It said that the man in the coffin had a 16 year old son...What was all that about?
Posted by SeniorTech on May 30, 2008 11:31 AM
Here's something for you everyone: The scene where Ben appears in the desert may have taken place after he moves the island. Ben says that whoever moves the island can never return, so that person must be basically kicked off. So I think that Ben is dropped in the desert after he's moved the island which is why he has on the same Dharma jacket from Mr. Halliwax. I don't know if the time line works for this theory but I had to get it out of my head before I forgot.
Posted by Deanna Bibighaus on May 30, 2008 11:40 AM
The Panopticon is a type of prison building designed by English philosopher Jeremy Bentham in 1785. The concept of the design is to allow an observer to observe (-opticon) all (pan-) prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell whether they are being watched, thereby conveying what one architect has called the "sentiment of an invisible omniscience."[1]

Bentham himself described the Panopticon as "a new mode of obtaining power of mind over mind, in a quantity hitherto without example."[2]
Jeremy bentham is improtatnt because when darma initiative had the tests, the people in the htches didnt know that they were being watched. HUAH i told you preston!!!!!! But you are rightm i do need to get out more!! You guys rock!!! Gadzooks!!! Deanna Bibighaus Abinbton
Posted by Alaine on May 30, 2008 12:56 PM
To Kris Eve:
I thought Ben said that once you move the Island, you can't go back, not that you can't leave?
Ben mentioned to Jack how "bad" things had gotten on the island. Perhaps Locke had to move the island (just like Ben) to protect it. Once you move the island, you have to leave. I could see Locke actually killing himself (as the obituary suggested) because of his failure, or because he once again loses the use of his legs.
Charlotte told Daniel Farraday that she was looking for the place she was born. So that means at some point, women could actually bring a child to term on the island... Hmm?
Posted by damien on May 30, 2008 02:43 PM
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Posted by burky on May 30, 2008 04:02 PM
Jack's dad had been dead a while when he was brought to the island, but then the island brought him back to life. (well sorta). I'm gonna bet that when they bring Locke back to the island that he jumps his butt right out of that coffin!
Posted by DantMan on May 30, 2008 06:33 PM
Maybe this has been covered but..why does the Dr. in the Dharma Videos have 2 different names? Dr. Marvin Candle and Dr. Edgar Haliowax(sp)?

I searched the boards but didnt find anything....
Posted by shovelbuddy on May 30, 2008 06:49 PM
Three years pass from the time the Oceanic 6 leave the island to the time the decide they need to go back. It seems to me, in order to preserve the timeline, we are going to find out that the island was moved three years into the future as opposed to a different location. There really is no way to account for three years passing on the island without tons of back story. Ben\'s story, about not being able to come back, most likely hinged on the fact that he didn\'t know when the island went to. Just a thought.
Posted by SeniorTech on May 30, 2008 07:40 PM
Just to expand my earlier point a little:

In the episode, The Shape of Things to Come, Ben seems to just appear in the desert. I believe that this takes place after he moves the island. He has on the same Mr. Haliwax jacket and arm injury as we saw in the finale. I was wondering why they took the time to focus in on him injuring his arm coming down the ladder. It seemed a little trivial at first but now that I think about, it makes perfect sense. That's LOST for you.

It would also appear that Ben's ejection from the island propelled him forward in time as well which may explain why Ben ask the clerk at the hotel desk what the date is.

He sees a TV report regarding O6 member Sayid and the rest is as they say history.

Just a few thoughts. Let me know what you think.
Posted by Paulus on May 30, 2008 08:04 PM
Not having to do with this episode. but Michael Emerson (Benjamin Linus) was in Saw, along with the guy who played Miles. Michael Emerson doesn't have many lines, but he's EXTREMELY creepy in this movie, possibly even more so than in Lost. I was surprised when I saw them both. Check it Out!
Posted by bigjohn on May 30, 2008 08:26 PM
did any one else catch that comercial for http://www.globalrecruiting.com ?
and you all rock.
Posted by helloooooooo on May 31, 2008 11:13 AM
anyone else wondering what was up with the chick that came to the island with the friegter people??????? miles did say something like " i'm wondering why you wanna leave when u have been trying so hard to get "back"" anyone else wonder if she was from the island at some time? she also said (to i think his name is daniel, the guy driving the zodiak back to frieghter) that she was going to stay and that she was still looking for her birthplace???? any comments on that?
Posted by Colleen on May 31, 2008 02:36 PM
WOW! I'm still in awe after seeing the show twice. So good! And we learned alot, even tho we have more questions. But we're used to that by now...

Without trying to over-analyze, my thoughts on the Finale:

1. Sun- as another post said, she told her father she blames two people for Jin's death. One her father, the other Jack or Widmore. I believe she's going to a. use Widmore to get back to the island then try to take him for some of his worth, or try to hit him where it hurts, as she did to her father. I know Widmore is insanely rich, but who knows what Sun can do. She's an angry woman, and that is powerful!

2. I don't believe Jin is dead. When the freighter blew, I had this flashback of Die Hard with a Vengeance when Bruce and SLJ seemed goners for sure, but jumped that ship and made it. Jin was RIGHT on the deck running to the edge. I think he'll turn up. Where on Earth the island is, and if Jin can get back to it is another matter...

3. Mr. Eko-WTF!?!?!!?! I loved that we saw him move that chess piece. We know for SURE that it's not Hurley imagining things. Someone was definitely there!

Are Charlie and Mr. Eko traveling thru time maybe? Is it possible that the island doesn't permanently kill anyone but transports them somehow? That maybe no one can truly die on the island? Even tho Charlie was in the water, he was in the general area.

4. With all the weird s*** that happens on that island, HOW can Ben wonder why children can't be brought to full term? There is some crazy stuff going on there. I'm surprised people don't spontaneously combust with all the energies floating around!

5. Locke as Jeremy saying that bad things have happened on the island. Obviously we have to wait and see, but no doubt things get super weird after the island "moved". Did Locke leave like Richard and Ben always do b/c they have a mission to accomplish? Or was he banished by the Others? Locke doesn't seem ready to leave the island on his own. Something major had to force him to do it.

6. Getting everyone back together to return: Many problems with this: Kate will never go. They'll have to play dirty (kidnapping her, taking the baby and saying he's on the island so she's forced). Ben will do anything, and he already told Jack he'd help with getting Kate to be cooperative.

Also trying to figure out (like everyone else) if Desmond has to go back (which if he is asked, that will be a big "HELL NO, BRUTHA!") and if the babies do. I think Sun will try because she wants to get to Jin.

7. Island "moving": I do think that it's more moving thru time, vs. placement. This whole moving the island thing has me dizzy. I almost died when I saw it literally disappear from the ocean! How the F are the writers/producers gonna explain this!?!?!!?!

8. Claire: was it really Claire or a hallucination of the island? Everytime people show up in dreams, they're usually dead.

Thing is, I'm not sure yet if the Island or Jacob sends images of people for its own purpose, or if it's actually the person showing up for real. I feel a manipulation from the Island to get people to do what it wants. This is another part of the story I wish we would get more info on.

9. Penni- I think she's definitely in danger. Ben doesn't usually fail when he is really after something. He killed Keamy no matter what the consequences were. He will do whatever he wants to Penni to get back at Widmore, or even use her as a hostage to get something from Widmore later.

Widmore is pretty ruthless...wonder if he'll let Penni die to get what he wants...

10. Ben showing up in the desert with that big jacket: Obviously he ended up there soon after making the island move, because he was still rubbing his arm after waking up in the desert, and the wound looked new. Now, did the island send him there randomly? Did Ben pick where he wanted to go and end up there? He didn't seem too surprised...

And how many times has the island been moved? Ben seems to know a great deal about everything on the island. WHY NOT US!?!?!!?

Hope we find out what Locke was told by Richard and the Others when he became their new leader. Ben did tell him he would get answers, I just hope we find out next season...

So much for not over-analyzing...

P&S ROCK!
Thanks for making LOST a community event! We all get to go crazy together!!!!!!
Posted by Bigjay on June 2, 2008 09:54 AM
Go back and watch the scene with Hurley and Sayid again. Eko does not move any chess pieces. Hurley makes the last move and says check-mate Mr. Eko. Check-mate is the last move of a chess match.

Hallucinations are usually of dead people??? What about Locke hallucinating Walt, or Charlie hallucinating Claire and his mother? True, predominately they have been dead, but not all. No, Claire is still alive. Remember Desmond's vision the told Charlie... he said he saw her on a helicopter getting rescued. So far, she hasn't been near a helicopter.
Posted by JulieAnne on June 2, 2008 04:15 PM
personally, I believe Sayid killed Locke because when Hurley asks what happened to Locke, Sayid says "They say he committed suicide" hmm...
Posted by DAVE on June 2, 2008 09:58 PM
I was very impressed that the Writers actually went thru with the whole "moving the island " concept and did not fall back on a radar interference or magnetic north altering beam or some such "they moved the island but didnt really we just turned the lights off and where real quiet for awhile " plot

That being said
When BEN turned the Wheel to begin moving the Island
The Glow from inside the "Machine" for lack of a better word Glowed alot like the Time Vortex/Eye of Harmony that is in
the TARDIS (The Doctor's TARDIS or any TARDIS really)
So my little thought of Jacob being a LOST TimeLord and the Island is a damaged TARDIS is so far a slight possbility
but then again I could be just Bonkers
And before You agree with Me just a final thought The Island and TimeLords have one thing in common amazing powers of ReGeneration
Or Im a Looney and NICK is correct in His Thoery that the Island is the last known section of Deagoba (YODA's Home World) and Jacob is YODA Juust a thought :o)
Chill near Fiji I will Yes hmm
Posted by rick T on June 4, 2008 02:13 AM
in the video with the time travelling bunny, they mention exotic matter, which is a theoretical form of matter that would be used to keep a dimensional wormhole open.
I'm not sure if its been mentioned before but i know what the numbers mean, and no im not making this up i found a video that was almost definitely done by the lost creators. The numbers are parts of an equation that tells us when humanity will destroy itself. I'm not sure what the site was but if anyone wants it, post a comment asking for it and i'll see if i can find it again.
Posted by Bigjay on June 4, 2008 05:14 AM
Yes, please post the site about the numbers.
Posted by Alaine on June 4, 2008 12:05 PM
The number appear in something called the Venzetti equation.(or something close to it)
Posted by Tina on June 5, 2008 06:08 AM
I came across this on YouTube ~ What Sawyer says to Kate.

http://www.youtu....ch?v=R5W2-dvSzKk
Posted by Alaine on June 5, 2008 06:40 AM
I just watched the finale again. I noticed some sort of exchange between Daniel and Juliet. When Daniel came back on the Zodiac to ferry the 2nd group back to the freighter, he meets up with Juliet. As Juliet was thanking Daniel for helping them, they shared some short glances, shy smiles...
I predict a Juliet/Daniel romance next season. If Daniel makes it back to the island that is!
Posted by Robert on June 15, 2008 09:18 AM
Today is Father's Day- but as we know, that's not a very happy day for so many Lost characters. I wrote an article recapping all the Lost bad dads- and reminding people that their real life dads could be worse by comparison- at http://www.assoc....osts.html?cat=39
Posted by Phil on June 15, 2008 10:08 AM
Two things I've learned about Lost.

1. Jin will be back for season 5 and Claire will not, but will return for season 6.

2. Sawyer whispers to Kate: "I have a daughter in Alabama. I need you to find her. Tell her I'm sorry."

I hope this clears up a few questions.
Posted by Phil on June 15, 2008 10:11 AM
Also, I'm starting to think Christian Shephard is the island. I think he is somehow going to be connected to everyone there and he needs them for some reason. I don't know though. Just a thought.
Posted by Phil on June 15, 2008 10:24 AM
OOO!!!! Maybe the magnetic energy that caused the plane crash somehow pushed them into the future to a time when all the continents had moved (like Pangea).... so when Ben moved the island, he went BACK in time to 2005 and Africa happened to be where the island was in the future. Make sense? Maybe the island is so far into the future that it moved north to where polar bears could survive.... oh I just don't know. GRRR. There could have been use for the bears in that icy place where Ben turned the wheel as well. Maybe they used the bears to turn the wheel at one time.
Posted by Phil on June 15, 2008 10:56 AM
OR maybe this whole show IS the walkabout that John was supposed to do, and he's in some virtual reality.
Posted by rick T on June 23, 2008 02:34 AM
it took me awhile to find the site again but here it is, the sri lanka video with the explanation of the numbers and some darma info, let me know what you make of it.
http://www.lostp..../Sri_Lanka_Video

Terry O'Quinn - John Locke - calls to talk about the Season 4 Finale

May 29, 2008 08:12 AM

Here's a link to our conversation with him:
http://www.prest....om/audio/904.mp3


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Posted by easyKeel on May 29, 2008 06:43 PM
At last...redemption! I nailed Jeremy Bentham on this site back on March 8. Although we still don't know which character he is, at least not at 9:20pm. To find out historically who the man was - search this site for that name.

LOST ROCKS!!!!
Posted by Blackjack on May 29, 2008 07:00 PM
Who the Fck is Jeremy Bentham. Seems like some viewers caught this last season finale after they froze the frame with the obit. Seems Jeremy Bentham is a 19th Century philosopher who developed the PanOpticon. A prison in which the guards can view the prisoners without the prisoners knowing that they are being observed.
Posted by Joe on May 29, 2008 08:34 PM
I think Sun sold out Locke to Widmore. She blames the survivors for Jins death.
Posted by bsbeamer on May 29, 2008 08:34 PM
http://octagonglobalrecruiting.com/
San Diego, CA - July 24-27

also the same dates/city as Comic-Con 2008:
http://www.comic-con.org/cci/
Posted by Shawn on May 29, 2008 08:36 PM
Holy crap! That finale was awesome. Many deaths, but it had quite a few answers. Although, I really wanna know where the island went to...and of course...HOW THE HELL LOCKE DIED!!!
Posted by Bob874 on May 29, 2008 08:38 PM
I can't believe that it's locke. I thought that they would not reveal who was in the coffin until the last season. I know that everyone wants to know what the hell happened on the island after the six left. What happened to Lapidius? I freaking hate this show. Casey had a good question for Evangeline....when do the flash forwards become present tense. Is next season going to be in that timeline or will the flashbacks now become what happened to the islanders? And who the hell is Jacob? Is Christian alive or not? I freaking hate this show!!!!
Posted by johnny k on May 29, 2008 08:38 PM
what was with that commercial for the octagon global recruiting company? That was weird. Tried to log on but would not let me submit my email. Best show ever!!!!!!!
Posted by Krys on May 29, 2008 08:46 PM
I knew it!!! Locke was my guess for the dude in the coffin. Curse the writers for making me second guess myself all year! Did I miss something, or is everyone wondering why Locke was referred to as "Jeremy". Didn't we see Locke's birth and his mother naming him? There's a twist waiting for next season....I'm sure. And how the heck did he get off the bleeping island? Kudos for getting Penny & Des together! At least someone has a happy ending on this show!
Posted by Vern on May 29, 2008 10:05 PM
I can only hope that the island is strong enough to heal death! Anyway, what's with the center of the island being like the center of Hell in Dante's Inferno? And the didgeridoo-like sound when the island moves? And Locke? Dying? Well, another long wait until January I suppose.
Posted by shoe on May 30, 2008 02:43 AM
agree on the kudos for getting des and penny together. what happened to the other people that bailed out of the freighter? Are they all dead? Did any make it to shore? How come the people on the "new raft" didn't try to go back and rescue any of them, either before or after getting picked up by Penny's "searcher"? I mean, I'm as fatalistic as the next guy, but there were plenty of opportunities to go back and try to look for survivors... for one thing, a bunch were wearing life vests and as such might not have gotten sucked under by the ship sinking. For another, some were on that motorboat thing on their way over to the freighter when it exploded... and it didn't look like they made it back to the island prior to the vanishing act...
Posted by bryan on May 30, 2008 04:34 AM
First - the heart monitor, would that been able to be put on locke. Like rip it off the a-hole and put it on someone else.

Wonder if they had to move the Island again... and what is up with john/jeremy saying the island got really bad.
Posted by Contraption22 on May 30, 2008 05:34 AM
Outside of transferring the heart monitor to Locke if he wanted to keep the freighter from exploding, Michael and Jin could have tried to pull the blasting caps out of the C4....
But it's a futile argument. The writers wanted the boat to explode, so it did.
Posted by Reddy06 on May 30, 2008 05:40 AM
Is it possible that Locke left the Island to re-warn the Oceanic 6 and in that time was killed by Ben. I wouldn't rule Ben out of killing Locke, they have a love-hate relationship. Ben needed Locke on the Island to save the Island, but once left the Island he was free game. Now Jack gets it that Locke was right all along, I don't know how he is going to get Kate and Aaron back to the Island that should prove interesting. Sayid is already rounding up the other 6 for Ben to take back. Do you think that Locke will come back to life on the Island? It made him walk?

There's No Place Like Home - Part 1 - 05-15-08

May 15, 2008 06:42 PM

The face-off between the survivors and the freighter people begins.

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Posted by Dean on May 16, 2008 02:48 AM
Did anyone notice when Sun met with her dad that someone had something thru 5 bank accounts ?was that Sun taking buying her controlling share or was that Ben stealing money from him thru some trickery to finance his secret money stash?
The way Jack found out Claire was his sis ....man thats a punch in the head eh?Kate teling everyone she was pregnant and Aaron is hers...that almost got blown out the water early!
Richard and the others are back..ok I was wondering where they all got too.
Im loving me some Ben, the bit with Hurley and the crackers and his banter with Locke are great!
2 weeks we have to wait now?!?! AAAAh!!!
Posted by JJ on May 16, 2008 04:28 AM
Here's my timeline for them getting off the island...

1. Ben has some evil badass plan and will kill the mercinaries. (Maybe Richard and the rest arrive as reinforcments)

2. Jack & Sawyer find the Orchid - Jack and Locke have the same science vs faith / leave vs stay argument.

3. Richard and the others (with Kate and Sayid) get to the Orchid (4 of the 6 now together there)

4. Ben, Locke, Richard & the others stay at the Orchid and do some crazy island stuff to try to move the island.

5. Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, & Sawyer go back to the helicopter.

6. Sawyer again doesn't want to leave and tells Kate to do something for him when he gets home. Sawyer returns to the beach.

7. The pilot flies the 4 back to the freighter (Sun and Aaron are already there...all 6 now together).

8. Since the boat is rigged with explosives and cannot move or it will explode so they must go back to the island.

9. The six get into the raft and head back to the island just before the freighter explodes.

10. Before they reach the island Locke finally activates the Orchid and the island disapears / teleports / moves away.

11. Since the island isn't there to pull them in (like it did to desmond's boat and michales raft) they, after some period of time, wash up on that island as stated in the Oceanic press conference.

12. Since they can't really explain why there was a fake plane wreak, dissapearing magic island, and widmore's freaighter full of guys trying to kill them they make up that story of everyone dying in the plane crash.

the 6 are now off the island and everyone else is still stuck on it, but it's moved to a new location.
Posted by Nic on May 16, 2008 06:07 AM
I like JJ timeline but what do you think happens to Desmond, Mike and Jin?
Posted by JJ on May 16, 2008 06:20 AM
~to Nic

I think there are two possibilities:

1. They stay on the boat when it explodes and die (though I'm not sure if the island will let Michael die yet or not)

2. They get on the helicopter and fly back to the island at the same time as the 6 are escaping the freighter in the raft. Since the helicopter is a lot faster, they could reach the island before Locke moves it and they would get stuck on the island again.
Posted by BDubs on May 16, 2008 06:32 AM
I think that Michael is the one in the coffin at the end of last season. Once he helps the Oceanic 6 get off the island - he has 'redeemed himself' according to the Ben/Mr. Friendly principle and the island no longer needs to keep him alive.
Posted by Alaine on May 16, 2008 07:22 AM
Sun buying her father's company was awesome! I don't like Juliet much, but I do wonder about her fate.
Posted by jtb3rd on May 16, 2008 07:57 AM
I think Sun gets the money ( 5 different banks ) to buy controlling interest in her father's company from the other survivors. That's what they use their settlement from Oceanic for.
Posted by Deb on May 16, 2008 07:59 AM
Did anyone notice at the press conference the oceanic liason stated the survivors were rescued after they were on the island for 108 days. So does this mean that oceanic is owned by witmore too or by the Others...becasue everything is centered around 108?
Posted by Di on May 16, 2008 09:15 AM
I think the theory of how the oceanic 6 get off the island,but how about Faraday,the pilot, the red head(who finds the polar bear) and the ghost buster(I forget his name also).
Posted by jeni77 on May 16, 2008 11:01 AM
As always an AWESOME episode!! Okay. just a few questions/ observations .. obviously its not Jack's dad in the other coffin.
And, we know now that the all the others--the non Oceanic 6-- are not dead but just "Lost" as the island has been successfully moved? Am I way off base? The logistics and timing will come later of course. Sooo...maybe a few more seasons?
Also, Abaddon "sent" John Locke to the Island with his idea about the walk about. (previous episode). Does this confirm that Locke is a "chosen one"? Abaddon is creepy; but knew the plane was supposed to crash and Locke and the rest supposed to be on it.
Posted by jeni77 on May 16, 2008 11:09 AM
Sorry guys, I posted before I read the comments. I know how everyone hates double postings!! JJ, I lIke you timeline too. The logistics of how the 6 get on the Zodiac will be explained of course. Do you thnk we can expect a "Lost" series on trying to re-find the Island?
Posted by Alaine on May 16, 2008 11:48 AM
Did Preston and Steve do the "Lost Chat" this morning?
Posted by Susan on May 16, 2008 11:51 AM
to JJ, i like your theory, but Jin can't stay on the boat & die because if you remember he is alive in the frontlife, but for some reason not with Sun, he took the big panda to the hospital for a customer's baby when sun was having his baby...
Posted by fran on May 16, 2008 11:54 AM
anyone think ben and locke are brothers?
Posted by Peter on May 16, 2008 12:30 PM
Hey, why don't you guys run your Lost-Talk segment on Thursdays before the episode runs??? I'm tired of you guys just cutting Lost Talk altogether since you're too busy with other lame crap on Fridays.
Posted by Lost Fan on May 16, 2008 01:43 PM
If you unscramble the word "Oceanic" you get "cocaine"...
Posted by shovelbuddy on May 16, 2008 01:59 PM
Jesus Christ is not a weapon... priceless
Posted by Brian on May 16, 2008 03:59 PM
bring back the show's Lost discussions....
Posted by ELSEWHERE on May 16, 2008 05:33 PM
Kind of off topic but i found it kind of fun the other day whe i was watching Executive Decision and the highjacked flight was an Oceanic airline flight.
Posted by mac on May 16, 2008 11:35 PM
I just watched the last 2 episodes And I got some questions- who set the bomb? Is the time difference shifting? is the Daniel, Miles and Charlotte good or bad?
Posted by shelli on May 17, 2008 05:24 AM
not a lost comment but i got the best picture text today i wanna share with preston and steve and all the listeners anyone know how i can get this to them either thru text or email so they can post it like they did the 2 girls 1 cup video?
Posted by AdamL on May 17, 2008 04:02 PM
Not sure what this means, or if anyone has commented on it, but 4+8+15+16+23+42=108
Posted by john1962 on May 17, 2008 07:31 PM
I have a theory (who doesn't?) as to where "The Others" might have come from. I think hey are the original survivors of the Blackrock ship. You can't help but notice that the guy who came to see Locke as a little boy has not aged a day. I assume that from the technology and the fashion statement surrounding the picture of Ben that we saw recently has got to be from the 70's and it does not look like he has aged at all either. The island is defintely out of the normal time shift so that all fits in for me. Now how they dealt with the Dharma people? That is another question.
Posted by Josh on May 18, 2008 07:37 AM
Hey I just had a thought. I'm wondering if that device that's strapped to Keamy's arm is not only the detonating device for the C4 for on the boat. I think that it's strapped to that place because it monitors his heartbeat (the artery on the inside of his arm). If he dies, the C4 explodes. THAT's why he told the Captain that "You really don't want to do that." Like a back up safety measure in case anything goes down on the island. Thoughts?
Posted by Jukin on May 18, 2008 05:39 PM
Not sure if anyone noticed, but there are a few contradictions between Jack's testimony at Kate's trial and his cover story presented last week. Looking at the transcripts from both 'Eggtown' and 'There's No Place Like Home pt 1', there are serious errors in Jack's stories. Here's the relevant parts from the Lostpedia transcripts from both episodes:

TNPLH-Pt. 1
JACK: It--it all happened really fast. I remember the impact. I remember the--the plane filling up with water. A group of us got to the emergency door, and, um... got out before it went down.

MALE REPORTER #1: And those of you who survived--you swam to the island?

JACK: No. We had, uh, cushions. We had some life jackets. We were in the water for over a day before the current took us in. By then, there was only eight of us left.

His testimony from Eggtown
JACK: Um..on September 22, 2004, Kate (sighs, smiling) --Ms. Austen and I were both passengers on Oceanic Flight 815, which crash-landed on an island in the South Pacific.

Then he later expands on that....

JACK: Only eight of us survived the crash. We landed in the water. I was hurt, pretty badly. In fact, if it weren't for her, I would have never made it to the shore. She took care of me. She took care of all of us. She--she gave us first aid, water, found food, made shelter. She tried to save the other two, but they didn't--

In the cover story it sounds as if a good number of people made it out of the plane and later died in the water. But at the trial he claims that only 8 survived the initial crash. This is a pretty major mistake on his part. Also during the testimony he claims that he would never have made it to shore without Kate's help, but during the press conference he never gave any indication that he needed any help at any point. He also claimed at the trial that the plane "crash-landed on an island..." but at the press conference they were far enough away from the island that they remained in the water for over a day. That doeesn't sound like the same thing at all.

But the most interesting part I think is that they have miscounted the survivors. According to BOTH versions of the story there were 6 survivors alive on the island. In both versions 8 made it onto the island and two of them later died. According to the cover story Kate gave birth to Aaron on the island.

From TNPLH
MS. DECKER: Based on the location of the wreckage, our best estimate of the crash site is... (click) here. From there, the survivors were carried by the ocean's current to... (click) here--an uninhabited island in the Lesser Sunda Islands known as Membata. As you've all read in your briefing books, on day 103... (click) a typhoon washed up the remnants of an Indonesian fishing boat, including basic supplies and a survival raft. On day 108, the remaining six survivors, including Ms. Austen's baby which she gave birth to on the island of Membata, used this raft to journey here-- (click) an island called Sumba.

Why would they count Aaron separately before his birth? It seems odd that Jack would count him individually while he was still in the womb.

JACK: "Only eight of us survived the crash."

-and-

JACK: "By then, there was only eight of us left."

Maybe it's just me but I doubt anyone would really count an unborn child in this manner until after he was born - particularly when the Mother is supposedly only 6 months pregnant and seemingly not showing enough that the police would have noticed it in order to note her condition in their arrest reports. So why is Jack including Aaron as an individual during his testimony? It just seems like he shouldn't be included among the survivors until after his birth - at which point it would have raised the total number of people on the island of Membata to 7.

So with all of these discrepancies, why hasn't someone - a reporter or the Prosecutor perhaps? - picked up on it? Oh and one last thing, it seems that the writers have found a way to include the Tsunami in the story with the idea of it bringing up the wreckage of that fishing boat. I was wondering if and how they would incorporate this into the story.
Posted by Alaine on May 19, 2008 01:55 PM
A question: Why do all the oceanic 6 hang out together, ie Christian's funeral, Hurley's surprise party? Then when Hurley visits Sun, he is happy that none of the others are coming to honor Jin? Are they all just sick of the lie and must get away from each other or what? Any thought?
Posted by jimbuck on May 19, 2008 06:45 PM
Im sorry i usually let stupid comments slide but susan who said jin cant be dead because he bought the panda in the "flash forward" episode has no business being here, and im not even going to explain why.
On another note, has anyone mentioned that Abaddon may be a grown up Walt. Discuss amongst yourselves.
Posted by Amanda on May 20, 2008 06:00 PM
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that Claire's mother was shown alive and well in the flash forwards. If you recall, she was previously in a coma with no hope for recovery.

Ben and Jacob previously cured Juliet's sister's cancer in order to keep Juliet on the island. It seems to me that Claire gave up Aaron and decided to remain on the island in order to save her mother's life. After all, Claire caused the accident that almost killed her mom and she harbored a great deal of guilt about it.
Posted by Dezi1Penny on May 22, 2008 10:38 AM
Regarding moving the island...way back when in the beginning of season tow when we found Desmond in the hatch he had a book that he was reading titled \" The Third Policeman\". In that I am a LOST nut and want to figure the show out I purchased the book and read it. In the book it is all about time travel and they use and elevator to travel thru time. So...thinking back to Ben\'s direction to in that all is tied togther on LOST does anyone think that they are going to move the island through time rather than physcially \"moving\" the island??
Posted by nate on May 23, 2008 08:45 AM
I grew up in eastern PA and now i podcast from Western Mass. Check out this Lost rock band that I saw at a show last night
http://www.myspace.com/theotherslostband
Posted by Lost,Lost fan on May 23, 2008 05:43 PM
My son Larry passed away April 11th. He and I are avid Lost
fans. We loved talking about it,reading and discussing what everyone here would write.
I miss him and those times together so much.
I don't know why I'm telling you all this,other then to say
LOST HAS LOST ONE OF ITS GREATEST FANS!
Posted by squrirrel on May 24, 2008 03:38 PM
there are six numbers... and six surviors of Oceanic 815
Posted by Scanner420 on May 26, 2008 07:34 AM
Just a thought about the person's theory who posted that Claire sacrificed herself to the island to get her mom out of the coma.......could she have been brought back to raise Aaron? They constantly tell Jack that he's not supposed to raise him and that he needs to be with his mother. imo- Grandma is the closest if mom's not around.
Posted by Bryan on May 28, 2008 08:59 AM
I can't wait for this season finale. Remember before the would show how many days there were on the island, why dont they do that anymore.
Posted by sarah on May 30, 2008 10:08 AM
i was listening to your lost chat from last week & you mentioned nadia. don't forget the episode in season 2 when john thought his father had died, he was a house inspector & he inspected nadia's house.

Season Finale Party - Season Four - May 29 at the Trocadero

May 14, 2008 08:30 AM

We'll be having our Season Finale party at the Trocadero on Thursday, May 29. This is an invite only party, so call 215-263-WMMR when Preston announces we're giving away passes and hopefully you'll get a chance to join us!
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Posted by Hailey on May 14, 2008 12:50 PM
I think I figured out where the island is, and where it might be heading... Follow with me on this magical mystery tour.

Let's start with the Black Rock. It's arguably the oldest artifact on the island, and was a pirate/slave ship that operated off the East coast of Africa. (We learned this in the show). I believe the island was located in the Indian Ocean when the Black Rock wrecked, and was moved for its protection to the Atlantic ocean off the West coast of Africa, where Eko's brother plane would have crashed on it. We know the island must have moved before the plane could have crashed because it's short range vehicle, and would never have been able to make the trip east across Africa to wind up in the Indian Ocean.

Now we have confirmed locations in the Indian Ocean, the Atlantic... and the Pacific.... because that's where Oceanic Flight 815 would have crashed into it. We can only assume that the island was moved after the crash into some new location, and will again be moved now that the Penny's father's ship has found it.

While it doesn't seem to be following a particular path, it's locations do always seem to wind up around the equator... and I believe the new location will be similarly so.
Posted by Shelly on May 15, 2008 07:42 AM
I have a great theory! Re the Oceanic 6. Why did some people stay behind? Up until now, I was thinking some people wanted to stay, but I'm sure some wanted to leave. The helicopter could only seat so many, 6? (or 5 1/2). Once the 6 left the island to whereever (the ship?) it could not get back to the island for anyone else becasue...Lock moved the island!!!!
Posted by Karen B on May 15, 2008 10:21 AM
check this very complicated and intriging theory about the balck smoke.. MRS. DOC JENSEN'S FIRST LOST THEORY http://www.ew.co....n+Kansas+anymore
Posted by Kathy on May 16, 2008 07:03 AM
Ok- so here's my theory....Everyone on the freighter dies when it explodes, from Keamy's remote controlled device... except the "six" who are in the process of taking the dingy boat back to the island. BUT they don't get back to the island in time since Locke is in the process of "moving it" and they are essentially "lost"!! Not a thrilling episode last nite, but definitely enough to get through until next week!
Posted by Ken on May 16, 2008 10:32 AM
I've been trying to 3 years to get to this finale party. Two years ago you stopped doing the email requests. I think you should restrict the invites to people who haven't been to one of your finale parties, yet. Or extend to maybe text-in opportunies. Or do a ticket raid. Be fare. Your phone lines suck. I don't have the time at work to be on the line calling over and over and over again trying to get it to ring.
Posted by Hammonton Blueberry on May 16, 2008 11:49 AM
I to believe the island has moved for 100's of years because of the odd things found there, polar bears, slave ships, drug planes, etc. I still believe Locke is the key to it all and was choosen from birth to be so.
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Posted by vivalajoe43 on May 29, 2008 08:23 PM
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!! Locke is dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cabin Fever - 05-08-08

May 8, 2008 11:03 AM

Locke is enlightened as to the whereabouts of Jacob's cabin, and life aboard the freighter becomes perilous.

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Unfortunately, because we had our ladies night at club risque last night, we did not get to a Lost chat today. I apologize. We'll definitely do one next week!
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Posted by Alaine on May 8, 2008 01:51 PM
While watching the "Cabin Fever" preview last week, I noticed that Horace Goodspeed (the man who said he had been dead for 12 years) had a nose bleed. It looked just like Desmond and Minkowski's in "The Constant" How does a dead man bleed?
Posted by shoe on May 8, 2008 09:26 PM
holy crap... awesome episode... lots of new questions...

1) Was Keamy (sp?) wearing a forcefield or something? How come the bullet from the captain's gun didn't touch him?

2) What does Claire know now that the rest of us don't? And how is she getting better looking by the minute?

3) By what miracle are these idiots on the freighter going to engulf the island in flame? What did they pack on the helicopter, a friggin can of gasoline or something? Unless they've got nuclear-tipped tomahawks somewhere in the belly of the freighter or some crap like that, it ain't gonna happen. The island's not enormous, but it's big enough that you need to have real air support to execute on a threat like that.

4) Those contingency plans or whatever that Keamy ripped out have Dharma logos on them. If he and Widmore are tied to Dharma and they want to kill everyone on the island, wouldn't the mechanism of the food drops have been an easier way to go about it?

5) If Ben's "reign" over the island is in fact brief in time and was not intended to be a permanent thing, then why was Widmore's argument with Ben in the previous episode? Why not with whatever body corporate actually controls the island? That seemed like it was a very personal thing between two men, but the events of today show that Ben's power is a power of position, not an inherent power of himself. That is to say, he's nothing and would be nothing were it not for the fact that some powers that be decided that he should be king of that island...

Any ideas?
Posted by narda on May 8, 2008 10:45 PM
Okay, so how come Richard has not aged since that late 1950's? that is what i wanna know...
2nd - Locke drawing smokie at a young age = time travel? Or enlightened? AND the dude that saw Locke in the hospital...same dude that visited hurley in the hospital after the Oceanic 6.
Posted by Bridget on May 8, 2008 11:20 PM
So, is Claire dead, then?

And Locke's basically been scouted for the island his whole life?

Loving the show, but I hate to have to wait a week in between episodes!
Posted by Mike on May 8, 2008 11:26 PM
Very interesting questions, questions I'm sure none will be answered til next season! Argh!!!

Anywho.....I always like Locke stories and this was okay, I mean did we really need to learn again he had a bad childhood? But the scenes with Richard and Abbadon were pretty cool. Richard has to be immortal, it only make sense how he can still look the way he is 50 years later!

I was really hoping Christian was Jacob...but it looks like I'm wrong again! Gah!!!! Why cant we see Jacob now!? and what do you mean by 'representing'!? Is he dead or not!? None of it makes sense....Guess we'll have to wait next year for answers, and yes I know we still have a finale but let's be honest....none of this is being answered now.
Posted by Tugboat on May 9, 2008 04:08 AM
Starting to think that Richard is really Jacob, if not maybe the man who worked at the hospital with Locke. Just a thought.
Posted by Andy on May 9, 2008 05:45 AM
Did anyone cacht the Darmah insignia on the first page of the
2nd protocal booklet.seeing claire and christian together in
jacobs house gave me the heebie geebies.
The ending was better than the begining of the show, i was getting a little bored.
Posted by Morgan on May 9, 2008 05:58 AM
Christian told Lock to move the island. I'm guessing that's connected to Ben's comment to Widmore. Widmore said something along the lines of, "that's my island." Ben retorted by saying either, "If you can find it." or "You'll never find it." Maybe that means Lock was successful in "moving the island".

I agree, Claire was very comfortable and cool being there without her son and being there with Christian. WTF!!!!

Freakin awesome episode! Even my husband watched it with me and he has never seen the show before!

PnS ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Cuz on May 9, 2008 06:28 AM
What about the commercials out of control. Never going to watch on Thurs night again.
Shame on you ABC, the episode would have been great if I could have been given the chance to get into without the constant commercial breaks,
Posted by Cheech on May 9, 2008 06:55 AM
I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, i didn't get to listen to the show because i was in a meeting... but the camp that was trying to recruit Locke was an anagram for "Lost Time"
Posted by Kathy on May 9, 2008 07:21 AM
WTF???? Give this show a10+++++!!
Could Richard be Locke's father?? Seems like he's been checking up/ grooming him all of his life to come to the island.
Yes- Michael must still have immunity from the island, as Keamy's gun jammed abt 3x when he tried to shoot Michael. Super creepy seeing Clare lounging with Christian... they kept exchanging odd-secretive-creepy glances with one another... what does clare know?? And it does seem to fit in Christian and Clare's plan that the baby leaves the island " he's where he's supposed to be"... what?!
Hold onto your hats for next week!
Posted by * KELS 37 <3 * on May 9, 2008 07:36 AM
Ya know, I’m still trying to wrap my brain around this shit. I’m thinking maybe it’s a manifestation of Lockes mind? I wish Hurley or Ben would have gone in there, so we can see if they saw Claire and Christian too. So apparently Locke is special in some way and the island found this out somehow, there when he was born and everything. And that goddamn Richard hasn’t aged a day in like 50 years and they still aren’t telling us why! Now im actually wondering if Lockes dad that pushed him out of the window is really his dad. Cuz supposedly he is twice his moms age, and when they showed mom and dad before (in the hospital with the kidney situation) they didn’t really seem to have that much of age difference. And when Emilys mom saw Richard when Locke was born, she looked kinda like she knew him. weird.
Now does Locke remember Richard from when he was a kid? And whats with the creepy black guy? He was the guy that started the freighter team with Naomi, and the same guy that visited Hurley in the flashforward asking about the people still on the island…
And the time difference thing between the island and the freighter is messing me up. How the f did the doctor wash up on shore a couple days ago on the island, when he was still alive on the boat. Ya would think it would take at least a week for a body to travel from the boat to the island, maybe even more. So that would mean the island is in the future versus real time, but how far into the future is the question. And the guy on the freighter that told the doctor about it didn’t seem phased by it at all..
I am thinking that the island ages people too somehow- I noticed last night when Sayid was talking to Desmond, he had some gray hairs goin on..same thing with Jack in his flash forwards..
And what was with the pilot dropping the satellite phone? Why would he want Jack and them to follow him knowing that Keemi is going to kill everyone??
Posted by Locutus of Borg on May 9, 2008 07:36 AM
This is in response to Cuz's comments about too many commercials:

I love this show but can't stay awake for the 10 PM airings. I watch on ABC.com the following morning. It's posted at 5 AM and is shown with approximately 4-30 second interruptions. I wish all TV could be that way. Check it out...
Posted by Bryan on May 9, 2008 08:04 AM
So Dharma has been trying to get Locke for the longest time. Did you notice the Gerinimo Poster in Locke Locker
Posted by Laura R on May 9, 2008 09:20 AM
BIG shocker that P&S didn't talk about Lost last night. They really never do anymore, and when they do, they do a half a** attempt at a chat. Plus they spend half of the time recapping for Kathy because she didn't pay attention during the episide. I really question the shows loyalty. I started watching lost because of P&S. You guys disappoint me, and a lot of other people it seems. I don't even believe it anymore when we hear them say, oh next week we promise to talk about Lost. YEAH RIGHT.
Posted by Hammonton Blueberry on May 9, 2008 10:01 AM
It\'s always been a theory that Locke was somehow the \"key that unlocks\" all the mystery on the island. However, I\'m very confused as to whether Claire is now dead or alive. She did hit her head when her house was blown up so could she have died that night in the jungle and her father came to get her. And Aaron is where he is supposed to be? What does that mean. The fortune teller from season one said only Claire was to raise the baby.
Posted by Damon on May 9, 2008 11:06 AM
Has everyone forgotten that Christian Shepherd is Claire's father. shes from Aussie and thats where he was when he supposedly died and thats what brought Jack there? Remember seasons 1 and 2. We found out Jack and Claire are half siblings.
Posted by Scanner420 on May 9, 2008 11:31 AM
For Kelz..

Remember when the Freighter folks first came to the island, Fairaday had the rocket payload fired and it showed up 31 mins later? Fairaday figured out the co-ordinates on how to avoid the time-shift altogether with the heading 315. You figure the doc had no rocket propulsion or way to shift through the time annomally when he was dead, so he literally showed up sooner than expected and thanks to the shift he was literally in two places at one time.

Gawd I love this show!!!
Posted by Korverfor3 on May 9, 2008 12:09 PM
If baby Aaron is 'where he is supposed to be'... then apparently, Aaron is supposed to be with Sawyer, cause that is who has him now.
Posted by Alaine on May 9, 2008 02:00 PM
Tugboat: I agree about Jacob being Richard Alpert. That might help explain (somehow?) why Richard doesn't age. I think Jacob can take many shapes. I think he takes a shape that will further his purpose. Maybe Jacob took the shape of Kate's horse, or even Ben's Mom (when young Ben runs away to the woods and sees her.) Or, I could be cracked.
Posted by Chuckles on May 9, 2008 02:56 PM
Claire seemed OK with not having Aaron with her because if you remember back in season 1, she was told by a psychic that she wasn't supposed to raise the baby and she was looking for people to adopt anyway. I guess her Pop explained everything to her.
Posted by skelly on May 9, 2008 07:05 PM
Well, I'm beginning to think that the Oceanic 6 are the ones who are dead and never really made it back to civilization, so to speak. I think they left the island on the freighter and never made it back which is why they are seeing dead people. This could also explain why Jin's grave has the markings of the date of the crash.

I think Clare is now dead, which is why she is with her father, and Jacks father. She was way to comfortable in that cabin and had a creepy look on her face. And this is where Kate picks up with raising the baby.

Loved the fact that Richard had been keeping tabs on Locke since his birth. Maybe he is Jacob, who knows.

Also loved the way "what's his name's" gun would not fire correctly when he was trying to shoot Michael. His death is not going to come soon, I would think.

This show makes me tired.
Posted by skelly on May 9, 2008 07:10 PM
Oh, and one more thing. The time shift on the island is obviously acting up since the Doc dies after the men came back to the boad and mentioned that they had heard that he had washed up on the beach with his throat cut before it actually ended up happening. Too much!
Posted by gbertb1 on May 9, 2008 10:42 PM
Sitting around talking about Lost. Does anyone remember an episode in which there is a scene of people loading on the plane , maybe showing Locke, and in the background you can see the grim reaper standing there? If so email gbertb1@aol.com the season, episode name, whatever. Driving us crazy trying to find.
Posted by Di on May 10, 2008 10:02 PM
Backing up a little, What was Rose implying when she said that Jack became sick while everyone else was cured of their illnesses? Ben then tells Locke that he is the leader now because Ben had that tumor on his spine and Locke seems to be invincible since getting to the island. Is there some kind of connection between Ben and Jack? Both started as leaders of their groups ,or is Ben just playing with Lo